📅 Original date posted:2015-06-28 📝 Original message:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 June 28th, 2015 Mailman's obscure_addresses option is now disabled. It has been pretty useless as a spam mitigation measure anyway. This is a test message to see if mailman continues to break --clearsign GPG signatures for messages that contain an e-mail address like test at example.com . -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQQcBAEBCAAGBQJVkKy7AAoJELEXnrc0fcENmiIf/1Qgb/XFDmGl5RsZnMWh+kCX EBjT/ouufgURTrOt6XPhwnxJAYMKPtobg4MvjosqKFNKzyz3Io9TxkWXFXFLajLt uZ/RPck0b6qYPXW02m6on1Zj8VIKrREtm4CEH/2q7iHkjsWIHULo+K6emrJQtIOs DzhUEniPPVDJVIq2pZJGKHq87ydmnFMYhXjzCu2e0N7CBFw/uxtUEsvkd0uuognm YVjnrCjS8CLzNgEkx8z6R1WWz7psDQeLr+d8BP/6TVrgEOaeX4pAy9mhqdPjGutV C6X3SyMlSA/PDJFqzT5Upe4UKwKWGq7AOBz7OpzpYIqJ69NKsIjCgh+t6qCisDZO O3XFUIidmKZsWE422InFLhUtqzwZHq56J/eKKiYz53BSYtTOPIs4+RPlm1Gzs7gP cEqoDYobdlT2H1vCvNficcbH5nWmooErUxT06tXjGqfPHlm+OVuOyVTwuin+gD5H winqtNlkSCbG1MjhUoLEJVxLHP7t6i5e6EKPQrvP0XycKuO2PMlVkYYFBGMKEFF/ sL68wyV/0PzGRA7ggcBmcOGHC7ys2sOroLZCWNDnOrQnRFHvQgDCQpj3uMFMO7yf 8E+0CIKO0vB/Ljxse51+s/NZTX8uTZu525+hSG8cuLY1FTl5Zk3oRH1HGUJ9wbWh Hjx6827uh543+AHWgBwEpQ/8LkSlc0UN6txNmYn4DJgEksqP80iaPkvXAEesSUJ8 OtAPrWOMZXcSsp7HZkDXuJyMUerGvZcdIVvVNsLOWLWa2c0kyDdxubGflhGN/Hkq 67pJ5J/aeraw7BdfRi78CUWYXpVBlMaQ60jT2LV9XQxsqSnZb3+VgN9vyvQi/gih enr+l8r4esM7TOsGYHMWbQkHgnm/wOMiMc56xlqeIi/+cRuJF3Mg5LnbqIUU1Ox0 S+luGASWg1R2yU4n0EWQ5sx1dmslgvJe6lDKlQXEX4e4d5F0vhnyFiDVhChMCpGv ALK8MiUZGD2y9fIPB+Yypq7mH9NiQwQIJtpbVgVd2pBEl0XWkbs6F5GNq90ChE7x hWiyu2N/iug2r7zKt5KtZob9hIljQ6N/HAk+O1lLPUktX5HBt8X+KHyX22GMLIAu g4tWk2P7R0Sh2rYSd43S3CMF01eaGI2oWU0rj2KtG1HqQMVOIVjdxYR3tpmC69Tb MyCq7xe+zOcAiWkAeb1cJjgahrnDBR663zSsqZVnAyG9GQVvPY6fZKxYoY2B+xgP tEi8FTL3ag0PbdUJF8SQugx+R3HNBS+r1AGgOUEBtrrH9IqBAaOf3N+rMFLUl/HW ypTs5fj6A49CkncmQQGcyj3BwlEjhr4wF59Bpxn/KTwT5H2Sdu1QEuB2G+gwqYs= =bOwk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik at gmail.com> wrote: > Generally agreed w/ all this. > > To preserve digital signatures now and in the future, and make mbox > archives actually useful, a minimum modification policy is needed. > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 3:21 PM, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Frank Flores <frankf44 at gmail.com> wrote: >> > If you're going to go through the trouble of signing your public emails >> ... >> >> ... then you should also demand that the official archives of your >> favorite lists preserve them and their verifiability in the supposedly >> canonical reference "mbox" format that they distribute. >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Wladimir J. van der Laan >> <laanwj at gmail.com> wrote: >> > Subject: [bitcoin-dev] New GPG signing key for Bitcoin Core binary >> releases >> >> >> lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-June/009045.html >> lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-June.txt.gz >> >> As you can clearly see, both the HTML archives and the "mbox" >> archives have corrupted this message, it will not verify. Do not >> try to say this case is trivial, the problem itself is not trivial, >> it's gratuitous, and it applies to all matching messages... text, >> code, binary inline... that's dangerous. >> >> Do not try to say this corruption prevents spam, it does not. >> Spammers simply subscribe to the list and harvest everything >> efficiently in realtime... no webcrawling overhead, no stale >> addresses. Obfuscation is futile. >> >> This misfeature needs to be disabled. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Warren Togami Jr. <wtogami at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > archives will be exported >> > and imported into the new list server >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Andy Schroder <info at andyschroder.com> >> wrote: >> > I'm not sure if anyone has submitted a request for gmane >> >> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 5:35 PM, s7r <s7r at sky-ip.org> wrote: >> > Do we have all the archives imported? I run several full nodes and >> > mirrors for open source projects, if you think it's useful, I can >> > provide a mirror for the mail list archives. >> >> Yes... these other mirrors, archives, analysis, journalism, and >> interfaces are useful. However, as it is now, there are no useful >> authoritative sources for them to seed from... they're all corrupt. >> And any subscribed realtime sources, though nice, are subject to >> downtime, administrative and other unrecoverable gaps. Your mirror >> project is a fine idea, you should demand that the pristine historical >> sources be made publicly available. Not just for you, but for everyone. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015, grarpamp wrote: >> > ... >> >> As before, the current "mbox" archives are broken and not useful... >> >> a) They corrupt message data, messages are unverifiable, another >> example... >> >> lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-June/009132.html >> >> lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-June.txt.gz >> b) They are missing the minimum set of original headers necessary >> for fully replyable, threadable, sortable, searchable, context >> preserving and direct use by users MUA's in their local environment: >> (Date, From, To, Cc, Subject, Message-ID, In-Reply-To, References) >> c) They do not include attachments (patches, signatures, images, crypto, >> data) that are absolutely necessary to the context and archives >> of all lists. Instead they stupidly throw them away to "web links" >> which results not only in uselessness of the so called "mbox" >> version, but in many thousands of needless fetches by archive >> users and indexers. And hours of wasted work attempting to >> postprocess them into usable form. >> Valuable content lost from the "mbox" files this June alone: >> 418 attachment.html >> 106 attachment.sig >> 6 attachment.jpe >> 4 attachment.png >> 2 attachment.bin >> d) There appear to be at least 15 instances of unescaped '^From ' >> in the "mbox". Regeneration with current mailman may fix. One such >> case is here: >> >> lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-January/004245.html >> >> lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-January.txt.gz >> >> >> >> Please fix all the above mentioned issues by providing the full raw >> archives in regularly updated [gzip/7z] mbox format. The internet >> thanks you :) >> >> Example, compare the "Downloadable version"s here: >> lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev >> cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks >> cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2015-February/006820.html >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Andy Schroder <info at andyschroder.com> >> wrote: >> > Regarding message footers and the subject prefix >> >> Yes, they're also corruptive and space wasting clutter, for and by >> the clueless :( Both of them should be turned off. >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org >> lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org > lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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