Cooing Mongoose >you forgot to mention that Latins arrived there in 1204 as conquerors and occupiers conquest is a normal thing to happen, they should've done that from the start if they really want to establish the kingdom of Outremer, only by then the stability of the Middle East could be achieved. >Look up the Sack of Constantinople in 1204. Latins raping and pillaging the city. The Byzantines also did that to the Latins, eye for an eye I guess.