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Bill Cypher
If you won't use words correctly because it is inconvenient to your world view you are either an idiot or a troll. This use of fork is probably older than you and the fork is the group that made the change the others didn't agree to. Always. Even if most people like the change and choose to use the fork.
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ynniv
`fork` was V6 (1975), so I'll give you that. Perhaps this avatar I drew 20 years ago doesn't set expectations appropriately. Yes, I used the term colloquially to mean the shorter chain after a hard fork. But you're arguing that you're stable as long as you don't change. Obviously you can run your node however you wish, but if you continue to maintain the minority chain you're following in the footsteps of Bitcoin Cash. My argument is that institutions in a primarily reserve currency situation will collude with each other to centralize Bitcoin.
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vinney | opfn.co
They can centralize the printed fiat, as the illusion slowly dissolves. Our fork will be where the real value is. And I'm not talking about denominating in fiat.
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vinney | opfn.co
"do you want to get paid in Bitcoin or fiat-bitcoin for that service?" "I want to get paid in Bitcoin, not because I can sell it for a good amount of fiat, but because all the other goods and services I want only take Bitcoin"
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vinney | opfn.co
This is why the "plebs" meme is actually so important. That story above is entirely in our hands to write. We don't need to concern ourselves with banks and fiat governments if we write that story and live it.
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ynniv
I understand the philosophy, I'm asking people to recognize the physics. If the majority of Bitcoin activity is inside the banking establishment (primarily "a reserve currency"), then they are running the most nodes, coordinating with the most miners, defining the rules. They're patient, capable, ca
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vinney | opfn.co
Can we agree that you're still measuring all the physics in dollars?
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ynniv
No. I'm measuring it in obligations. You're hearing fiat, but that isn't the same thing. Bitcoin maximalism won't make property, or taxes, or militaries, or force disappear.
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vinney | opfn.co
Ah I see our problem. I have no problem envisioning a purely voluntary anarcho- capitalist society that provides all those services under consensual payments (in Bitcoin). Yea, sure, if you say "someone with a gun will make you pay in fiat" then sure, you win unless I'm a quicker draw and better s
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ynniv
Ah, I see. I don't agree, but I understand 🤙
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vinney | opfn.co
> "Ah, I see. I understand" ...{{ holy shit, this guy is even crazier than I thought! }} 😃
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ynniv
The more I learn, the less I know
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Bill Cypher
Collude to what? Destroy the value of their hard earned Bitcoin? Bcash was inferior. Your imagined Fedcoin is inferior. Best part is, every coin they add with their fork devalues their side giving me a head start on holding a higher value.
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