Post by Matt Corallo
Lighting absolutely does not take 5-10 seconds to settle a payment. Looking at payments from one of the largest custodial providers settlements are *way* faster than that most of the time.
Sure, if you’re sending from a shitty node that doesn’t have good pathfinding[1] then it can take a bunch of retries and a while, but, like, don’t do that? Cashu could take 5 seconds if you hit bad Tor relays, but, again, like, don’t do that 🤷♂️.
[1] lightningdevkit.org/blog/ldk-pathfinding
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Nah. For a zap to succeed you need a few more things than just a good routing algo. Not sure if you read my post or whether you just want to complain about the 5-10s number. I have a huge amount of data to back up my claims.
I've run several big LN services in the past and I've always measured the payment speeds. For months now I've been measuring speeds for payments across many Cashu mints. These are usually well-conntected nodes, better than the average for sure. The average for that is a pretty stable 4-5s. Some take 2s, others take 20s or 14 days. And that's *just* the LN part. For a zap you have multiple additional http and nostr steps for the payment to actually complete.

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All I can tell you is your data doesn’t match mine. Maybe lnd just sucks, I dunno, but achieving reliable payments way under 5 seconds is incredibly doable with LN today!
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agree
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